I am excited to share my interview with Clint Sabom regarding his course, Contemplative Practice: 5 Spiritual Exercises To Get Closer To God.
Clint Sabom and Marc Thomas Shaw are the instructors of this wonderful course and are the founders of Contemplative Light.
Contemplative Light is a community of spiritual teachers developing Contemplative Learning Courses, articles, podcasts, and lessons on silent prayer and meditation.
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For those not familiar with this form of prayer, how do you define contemplative prayer?
Spending quiet time with God. Putting it that way allows a lot of people to realize they are already doing it to some degree. Then, when they find out there is an entire tradition, even multiple traditions, of these practices, they feel validated and are eager to learn more.
For beginners who have a difficult time with contemplative prayer, what advice can you provide?
Watch less TV. Get comfortable with silence. Abstain from the radio or podcasts or any audio when you’re driving. Unless we live in a monastery, most of our time is not spent in prayer. So cut back on noise and stimulation all you can, and when you do take time for contemplative practices, it will come that much more naturally.
How long have you been a contemplative prayer practitioner? Which type did you start with
Since about age 21, and I am 40 now. I think I start with literally just sitting in silence and trying to let go and let be and be quiet. It was only many years later until I learned any “formal” prayer techniques or meditation methods.
Do you practice contemplative prayer everyday? Which one(s) ?
Yes, definitely. Mainly the Jesus Prayer and Centering Prayer.
Why are you attracted to contemplative prayer?
At this point, it’s just who I am, and what I most naturally do. In the beginning, I think I wanted to calm down feelings of anxiety and quiet my racing thoughts.
What is our true self? What is our false self?
If your friend Joe calls you up on the phone and starts talking to you, how do you think Joe is perceiving you? What exactly is he imagining as “you” in your opinion? That’s your false self.
The true self is more of a mystery. Every spiritual teacher tries to put a different spin on this question. But it’s still just a bunch of words. I suppose the true self is what God sees when He looks at us, the part of us that continues after death.
The true self has a stronger sense of Being, and less of a sense of Knowing. In fact, I feel like my own true self wants to answer all of your questions with the response: “I don’t know.”
How can a contemplative practice help me?
It generally becomes the most important thing in people’s lives once they invest their time and energy into it. It will make you calmer, happier, healthier, and of course, more deeply connected to God.
I encourage you to check out Clint and Marc’s course: Contemplative Practice: 5 Spiritual Exercises To Get Closer To God .
You will explore methods practiced by Christian mystics for centuries to consent to the action and presence of God within, including Centering Prayer, The Examen, Lectio Divina, Christian Meditation, and the Jesus Prayer.
*Clint and Marc have a new course out. Living Sacraments: The Christian Mystics & The Inner Journey to Go
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Living Sacraments: The Christian Mystics & The Inner Journey to God – How might your life change if you were steeped more deeply in the wisdom of the Christian Mystics? This course helps contemplatives, healers, clergy, and spiritual directors get a handle on the daunting subject of Christian Mysticism to draw on this timeless wisdom for their own spiritual journey AND to provide care to those they serve.
After taking this powerful course, you will know:
- The path of mystical transformation
- The four main mystical types
- The three eras of mystical flowering in the Christian West
- The lives, key teachings, challenges, and major works of TWENTY of the Christian mystics